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brochures on 1974 monaco/custom/brougham

Started by sigmfsk, May 02 2010 09:50 AM

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#1 sigmfsk

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 09:50 AM

I found these two brochures interesting. Maybe someone else will too!

I got them here:
Welcome to Lloyd's Automobile Literature

The first is all Monaco; the second is Dodge in general and I scanned the pages applicable to the Monaco.

your friend in information,
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#2 Steam McQueen

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 11:37 AM

Thanks for those, Arthur! :) I also like 'The Old Car Manual Project' Car Manuals for Old Cars which has branched out to include a brochure section. The Old Car Manual Project - Brochures.

I love the old brochures.

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:01 AM

Yeah man....I've got those, too...great info to have! :-x
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 05:51 PM

I found this page
Auto brochure: 1974 Dodge Monaco, Charger, Coronet, Challenger, Dart dealer literature
with a 1974 Dodge Car & Truck Data Book for sale. I then found the Monaco section of the same book on-line here:
The 1970 Hamtramck Registry - 1974 Dodge Dealership Data Book - Polara

Interesting stuff.

I learned these things:

p 14. The electric trunk release button was advertised as being in the glove compartment. Mine was mounted to the long metal piece under the dash that has the fuse box mounted to it. Maybe my electric trunk release was added by the coppers sometime after they received it from the factory.

p 16. rear window defogger was required in New York state

p 19. could get a sunroof

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 06:55 AM

Here's the 1974 Dodge Taxis brochure.

Not a lot of stuff, but I found a few interesting bits:

Like police fleets, taxis didn't have wood on door panels.

Non civilian options (available only to police & taxi)
tires : set of five bias-belted G78 x 15" blackwall, 15" X 6.5" JJ wide safety-rim wheels
fast-idle throttle control, manual
oil and temperature gauge assembly
spotlight
- 5" or 6" right "A" pillar mounted
- 5" or 6" left "A" pillar mounted

and I have a single key for all doors, trunk, and ignition. The taxi brochure lists the following options for taxis. I wonder what Marin County cops used:
keys - single - same key for all locks on a car, different key for each car in fleet
keys - universal - same key for all locks on all cars in fleet

Taxi only:
speedometer cable : 2-piece for easy meter-drive attachment

Other options that my Marin County car has:
deck lid - remote release, control on instrument panel [this is different than the Dodge Dealer Data book referenced earlier that shows the button in the glove compartment. Mine was on the instrument panel]
steering wheel - with partial horn ring

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#6 sigmfsk

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:31 AM

I've been doing some research on 1974 "Monaco Special". I'll create a thread on that when I get all my thoughts together. While researching I found two brochures that included info on "Monaco Specials". Both brochures are from Canada.

This first brochure has info on the Monaco, as well as other models. I scanned the pages applicable to Monaco.

Here are tidbits I learned from this brochure:

It looks like there was some strangeness about the 400 CID in Canada:

The 400 CID was standard for the brougham in the USA (page 5 of 1974 Dodge style brochure).
The 360 CID was standard for the brougham in Canada (page 5 here and page 30 here).
The 400 CID and 440 CID were options for the brougham in Canada (page 30 here).

The 400 CID was standard for station wagons in the USA (page 35 of 1974 Dodge style brochure).
The 360 CID was standard for station wagons in Canada (page 30 here).
The 400 CID wasn't an option in Canada (page 30 here), although 440 CID was (page 30 here)

Maybe this explains why Lord Vadus' Brougham has a 360:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/11196-unusual-characteristic-my-74-dodge.html

USA doesn't have Monaco Special, Canada does.

Page numbers are for this brochure:

page 8: [Monaco Special is] the most affordable way to get big Dodge room, ride and responsiveness.

page 8: Monaco Special has 'special' plate on front fender (last pic-2), as shown in mbmopar's album (last pic-1) from
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/690202/4
and on king-of-the-hill (last pic).

page 9: All 1974 Monacos have driver door pocket - except for Monaco Special.

page 31: The base Monaco was available in:
- 4-door sedan
- 2-door hardtop
- station wagon 2-seat model
The Monaco special was only avaialable in:
- 4-door sedan
- 2-door hardtop


It looks like the following is the model ordering for least expensive to most expensive:

- Monaco Special (not available in USA)
- Monaco
- Monaco Custom
- Monaco Brougham

A Monaco special is like a base monaco, other than it's missing a driver door pocket, it has a 'special' nameplate, and it can't be a station wagon.

your friend in cross border monaconess,
arthur

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:41 AM

Second Canadian brochure. Talks about the 360CID engine standard, and how station wagon wasn't available in monaco special. Didn't find anything not covered in the previous brochure.

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:00 PM

Here:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/10217-theres-new-marin-county-sheriff-town-4.html#post117322
I asked
> What were the production numbers for the following 1974 Monaco VIN codes (and/or
> any submodels, such as DK41 - Police 4-door sedan).
> DK - police
> DT - taxi
> DL - monaco special

This is based on my trying to complete this table:

car body
line style
DL monaco special (canada only) ?
DK monaco police ?
DT monaco taxi ?

DM 23 hdtp coupe 3347
DM 41 sedan 4dr 9101
DM 45 Wagon 4dr 2Seat 1583
DM monaco base total 14031

DH 23 Custom hdtp coupe 6649
DH 41 Custom Sedan 4dr 12655
DH 43 Custom hdtp 4dr 10585
DH 45 Custom Wagon 4dr 2Seat 1253
DH 46 Custom Wagon 4dr 3Seat 3272
DH Monaco Custom total 34414

DP 23 Brougham hdtp coupe 4863
DP 41 Brougham Sedan 4dr 3954
DP 43 Brougham hdtp 4dr 5649
DP 45 Brougham Wagon 4dr 2Seat 1042
DP 46 Brougham Wagon 4dr 3Seat 2718
DP Monaco Brougham total 18226

I contacted the Chrysler Historical Museum:
Walter P. Chrysler Museum

asking if they could help. Now I know why this information seems so hard to find. The information has been destroyed.

> No further production figures exist within the company.
> Also, we do not have build records after 1967. These records were accidentally
> destroyed years before they could reach the archives and do not exist within the
> company.

So they couldn't provide a build-sheet based on my VIN, and it seems that the number of DK, DL, DT monacos built will forever be a mystery.

But they did find a spec package for the 1974 Police Monaco! I attach it here.

Not much that jumps out at me. Two items of note:

1) Page F-5 shows that the remote trunk release (control on instrument panel) was an option from the factory. I talked about mine here:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/10217-theres-new-marin-county-sheriff-town.html#post111818

2) Page F-8 (the last page) shows that a Police Monaco (a Polara) with a 440 could only have H rated tires (H78 x 15 standard, HR70 x 15 optional).
Here:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/9490-z-rated-tire-wheel-questions.html#post113204
I mention
> that my B pillar has a sticker showing a minimum of G tires (load range B)
but that
> According to the Silver State Classic guys, a 1974 Dodge Monaco that originally came
> with a 440 was spec'd for H rated tires. And this does seem to correlate with the
> information in the owner's manual (about the wider 6.5" rims having H rated tires).

I received the car with HR70x15 tires (last 2 pics), so it looks like my b-pillar sticker (talking about G rated tires) is just wrong.

your friend in trying to find some way to sneak pictures of tires into a thread about brochures,
arthur

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 10:46 PM

A link to the thread with copies of the 1974 Police order catalog:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/8288-k-versus-a38.html
(posts 2 and 4).

I think this thread now has, or has links to, all 1974 Monaco brochures that we know of.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 01:23 PM

May I direct your attention to the cover, that shows a 1974 Monaco Brougham station wagon with a rear view mirror that hangs from the ceiling. And pic 7 that shows a 1974 Monaco Custom station wagon with the same. Interesting...

and the rear cover that says "The RV7 package ... offers all of the above plus ... special oil pressure and coolant temperature gauges". Interesting...

These wagons can have some cool stuff on them!

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 02:32 PM

And what would a wagon be without a trailer-towing package?

As with the other brochures, I include the pages that relate to Monacos (and not to Coronet, Charger, Dart, Dodge Compact Wagons, Dodge light-duty pickups, Dodge D100 and D200 pickups, Sportsman wagons converted for camping, Mini-motor homes, Motor homes, or Campers).

Checkout page 7 that shows:

> RV7 Package, Code A32: Engine temperature/oil pressure gauges : replaces electric
> clock J21 on Monaco Brougham models, and is not available with optional clocks (J21
> and J22).

and

> For this reason, owners of larger trailers will find it convenient to order the new RV7
> package ... which has all the equipment included in the Heavy Trailer-Towing package
> ... PLUS the 440 V-8 and gauges for engine temperature and oil pressure.

What's next in a wagon, a 14o certified speedometer?

your friend in becoming more and more interested in Monaco wagons,
arthur

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 03:55 PM

And my last swap meet find today:

1974 Dodge Confidential Price Bulletin
Passenger Cars, and factory installed options and accessories

As pumped as I was when I first found it, I don't think there's much new information here.

This one item is interesting:

M85 bumper guards deluxe - front & rear (std. w/a06 & a08) (req'd. on all vehicles registered in California)

California = mandatory bumper guards

and don't forget, New York city = mandatory selectable city/country horn:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/9040-we-have-bulletin.html#post102272

your friend in hoping CA residents aren't busted for removing the bumper guards from their bluesmobile replica,
arthur

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 08:37 AM

I disagree with the K vs A38 myth........New Jersey State Police ordered FuryIII which have no K in the vin and were bfull police package cars. I owned a restoed one until 2 yrs ago. Lots of police ordered up cars that weren't A38 package cars....why pay for wiring & roof light re-enforcement plates and spot lights if you don't need or want them. The A38 code was just a convenience for ordering. Chrysler Newports were also used by agencies but you won't find an A38 package in the ordering sheets. There is a 71 Newport certified speedo on ebay now. Saying A38 is what makes a police car is just a generalization and not fact. Trust me I had a boss who would pay extra to delete items on orders.

The gauge package was available on a wide variety of cars.......who would trust the idiots lights?
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:05 AM

I agree that it doesn't take K / A38 to be a cop car.

Here's a page that I think summarizes the situation well:
eBay Guides - IDing a Mopar Police Cop Car - A How to Guide

1) A "K" code VIN indicates a cop car.
2) An A38 fender tag indicates a cop car.
3) Being a cop car (typically with cop car options) makes it a cop car.

Here's a recent example of #3:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles-sale/11579-1974-plymouth-fury-police-montana.html

No K vin. No A38 fender tag code, but lots of cop goodies:
- ticket light
- crossmember reinforcement
- rubber floor mat
- certified speedo
- throttle lock
- dual snorkel air cleaner
- Leece Neville alternator

your friend in cop goodies,
arthur

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 09:16 AM

Exactly if it was that simple everyone would know an unmarked car or a government car by checking out the vin# .........many people probably don't believe it was possible to order a 2dr package car also with a A38.
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Posted 26 February 2011 - 10:43 AM

I went to the Detroit Autorama show.

> Famous rods on display include ... Ecto-1 from the “Ghostbusters,” ...
Local gearheads muscle into Autorama | C & G Newspapers

I don't know if that means it was actually from the movie, or just a replica.

It was a cool event. No bluesmobiles, though.

I did pickup the September 1973 issue of "The Dodge Reporter : Dependable News and Views about Dodge Dealers".

pic 1 is from the cover. It shows a "monaco skit". What advertising!

Regarding changing a tire, here:
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles-sale/8239-usa-1974-dodge-monaco-2-door-washington.html#post95054
Steam notes that the
> The jack slots are on the outside of the taillights, the bumperette holes are under
> the reverse lights.

which is good and correct. But I think I'll remember that the jack slot is the outboard slot by visualizing pic 2.

your friend in riding with monaco passengers that are happy to help with changing a flat,
arthur

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