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[NYC BLUESMAN]

Thank you all for letting me join this kick ass BB page......I own a WW2 jeep and was hired by a guy in NJ who own a picture car company...cars for film......HE has one of the orginal BB cars....The one that was used with the large PA on top in the movie.....I saw it myself...It sits in a big garage in Newark NJ....When i saw it and touch it....I thought I touching the HOLY GRAIL!!!!!!!!:eek:
I did take some pictures on 35mm film...Trying to find them now.....

Question.....Does anyone knows what happen to the one blus brothers car that fell to pieces at the end of the car chase scene???
Thanks all....
chris

[Blueblood]

Hi Chris, Welcome!

I'm afraid you touched a replica of the Holy Grail. There are so many stories of seeing 'one of the originals', or the original (from the first movie) that there would be literally dozens.

As far as the 'break-a-part Blumo', I would assume it was raked up and trashed. Hollywood isn't as nostalgic as it's audience about 'props'.

I'm sure Chris, the site founder or Steam, our Bluesmobile Forum Moderator, would have more insight about the first movie cars. I pretty much stick to the BB2K cars...

[Cropper Classic]

Welcome!

[Steam McQueen]

NYC BLUESMAN said:

Thank you all for letting me join this kick ass BB page...

Thank you for joining!

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I own a WW2 jeep and was hired by a guy in NJ who own a picture car company...cars for film......HE has one of the orginal BB cars....The one that was used with the large PA on top in the movie.....I saw it myself...It sits in a big garage in Newark NJ....When i saw it and touch it....I thought I touching the HOLY GRAIL!!!!!!!!:eek:
I did take some pictures on 35mm film...Trying to find them now.....

Very interesting. Like Blueblood mentioned, we come across claims of original movie cars once in awhile. I've never ruled out the possibility that one movie car might still exist. A Bluesmobile, that is. There was lots of talk of Dan's brother having a movie car. Then it was Dan's brother-in-law, Roy Dixon. Then a car claimed to be the Roy Dixon car came to us, not as a Bluesmobile ... but as car #55! It all turned out to be ridiculous.

Although I'm skeptical, this one we should take a look at. Owned by Jerry Immersi who runs Cars For Films out of Newark, NJ. Cars For Films







The only thing that looks out of place, at a quick glance, would be the passenger mirror. Jerry has gone on record as saying that this is the only surviving Bluesmobile and it was the one used for the beach scene, with speaker on top! I can remember Neums saying that he thought the surviving Bluesmobile had bolts sticking out the top. It looks like this car has them. Depending on the angle of the shot, interior colour may not be an issue here. I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned that not every film Bluesmobile had the tan interior.

We'll need some better pics. Hopefully the NYC BLUESMAN can post some of his. Thanks, man!!



The website mentions that Dan took this car out for a ride 10 years ago. Yet in print interviews over the last decade, Dan seems aloof as to where a survivor might be. If the car is for hire for film and TV production, it's no secret, and Dan's mind is a steel trap ... soooo ... 3 + 7 = 9 ?? lol. I dunno.

If you could scan us those pics, NYC, that would be awesome!

[TK826]

From the above photos, I'm seeing:

- Passenger mirror
- Wrong interior
- Wrong pushbars
- Solid white door
- No phone number
- DODGE letters on the front of the hood.

Unless explanations surface for the above inaccuracies, and a proof of lineage can be produced, I'm going with a "No" vote.
(The mirror, pushbar and the front letters is what seals it for me)

It is a nice car and I look forward to seeing NYC's photos... but, the real thing?
I'm really doubting it.

[Mr Mercer]

TK826 said:

From the above photos, I'm seeing:

- Passenger mirror
- Wrong interior
- Wrong pushbars
- Solid white door
- No phone number
- DODGE letters on the front of the hood.

Unless explanations surface for the above inaccuracies, and a proof of lineage can be produced, I'm going with a "No" vote.
(The mirror, pushbar and the front letters is what seals it for me)

It is a nice car and I look forward to seeing NYC's photos... but, the real thing?
I'm really doubting it.

I think some of the cars had Dodge above the grill . Some shots show none , but in the photo of them sitting on the hood of the car there clearly seen .

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[Steam McQueen]

We could definitely use some more info/pics on this car. I was wondering why there weren't more comments, then I realized we're in the introductions thread ... d'oh!

A lot of motorheads won't see it here.

Blue, any chance you could move this thread to the Bluesmobile forums? Or maybe it needs its own new thread ... hmm not sure. More people need to see this though.

Still hoping you have those pics for us, NYC!! The ones from the website are tiny.

[Steam McQueen]

A new member had mentioned this in his introduction thread ...
http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum/bluesmobiles/8235-two-things-please-read-saw-real-car.html

NYC BLUESMAN said:

I own a WW2 jeep and was hired by a guy in NJ who own a picture car company...cars for film......HE has one of the orginal BB cars....The one that was used with the large PA on top in the movie.....I saw it myself...It sits in a big garage in Newark NJ....When i saw it and touch it....I thought I touching the HOLY GRAIL!!!!!!!!:eek:
I did take some pictures on 35mm film...Trying to find them now.....

Steam said:

Although I'm skeptical, this one we should take a look at. Owned by Jerry Immersi who runs Cars For Films out of Newark, NJ. Cars For Films

Steam said:

The only thing that looks out of place, at a quick glance, would be the passenger mirror. Jerry has gone on record as saying that this is the only surviving Bluesmobile and it was the one used for the beach scene, with speaker on top! I can remember Neums saying that he thought the surviving Bluesmobile had bolts sticking out the top. It looks like this car has them. Depending on the angle of the shot, interior colour may not be an issue here. I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned that not every film Bluesmobile had the tan interior.

TK said:

From the above photos, I'm seeing:

- Passenger mirror
- Wrong interior
- Wrong pushbars
- Solid white door
- No phone number
- DODGE letters on the front of the hood.

Unless explanations surface for the above inaccuracies, and a proof of lineage can be produced, I'm going with a "No" vote.
(The mirror, pushbar and the front letters is what seals it for me)

Mr Mercer said:

I think some of the cars had Dodge above the grill . Some shots show none , but in the photo of them sitting on the hood of the car there clearly seen .

Anyone know of this car in Newark? I haven't tried to contact Jerry Immersi or anything, maybe someone here knows him?

Whaddya think?

[Steam McQueen]

Merged.

Any members gonna be in Newark anytime soon? :D Maybe Huey knows about this car. We need some big pics.

Here's a link to a pdf file where Jerry says he owns the "last surviving" Bluesmobile.
http://www.mgccnj.org/meshinggears/Meshing_GearsRB_2007-12.pdf

http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_cool.gif

It's only available for film/tv. No weddings or stuff. It's sketchy of course but I'd sure like to know some more about this car.

Here's a whack of '74 Monaco's ...
IMCDb.org: dodge monaco in movies and TV series

[Ghostbluesman]

NYC BLUESMAN said:

.....I own a WW2 jeep....

Same here, Chris...I've got a '43 GPW project that's on the back burner now, ever since I bought the BluMo Monaco.......what year is your jeep? Is it an MB or GPW?
Rob

[76Bluesmobile]

For everyone here, I'd like to lay this to rest, at least partially (until paperwork surfaces).

I took some time to study the beach scene one frame at a time - yes, I actually did it. Though these photographs are quite small, I have been able to identify several inconsistencies between this vehicle and the one in that beach scene - here are my opinions.

1. The double exhaust on the NJ car is not visible in the movie. Could it have been changed? Possibly. They do go bad.
2. The interior color - in the beach scene - THE INTERIOR IS BEIGE, both from a distance and close-up. There was no denying that the beige interior was used.
3. Rear window - Universal could have very easily replaced the window after principal photography had ended. I won't debate that small of an issue.
4. Bolt holes in roof - without concrete evidence this car held a siren, those could be leftover items from police lightbars that had been permanently mounted, assuming this was an actual police car. The interior picture seems to suggest that it was.
5. Paint/Body work - here is where the inconsistencies really shine through. In addition to the lack of a star on the doors, other major markings are not at all visible, or are too small in these pictures to be seen. "To Serve and Protect" is not very visible, and no lettering or numbers on rear quarters or trunk are visible. Primer on front lower quarter simply does not exist. The word Dodge on the front of the car is not visible from the angles the movie was shot in, but scenes immediately prior show the car with no lettering on the front. I very highly doubt that such a distinct and original paint job would have been covered over - usually the goal of owner's of famous vehicles attempt to keep them in original condition so that they are easily recognized.
6. The pushbars - Here is where my questions on this car really began. These pushbars almost appear bent upwards. They were in fact built this way as the lower connections are not bent upwards, but straight. The uprights appear too close together and are too tall compared to currently accepted ideas. The bars are not visible in the beach scene indicating they were not as tall as these ones are. The mounting locations on the bumper are also VERY inconsistent with how real police bars would have been mounted.
7. Final Details - If you study the scene very closely, you can see the same details visible as when the car pulls up in front of the baptist church - on the driver's rear quarter panel are two silver circles and a hole where radio antennae were mounted. These are visible in the beach scene, but not on the NJ vehicle. Finally, the car in the beach scene DOES NOT have a passenger side mirror on the door like the NJ vehicle.

You may all interpret these items as you wish, but as far as I am concerned, unless documented paperwork to the contrary shows up, I find it very, very highly unlikely that this car was used in principal photography. I am sorry to those who believe they have come in contact with the holy grail, but in this vehicle - I am not yet a believer. I also find the claim that this is the car from the beach scene simply - ridiculous. I believe that this individual is using that statement simply to create business for himself - after all, he does not just rent out to individuals for small events - just those he knows have money. His claims carry NO merit with me. He is a businessman first, a car collector second. I would never rent out any rare original TV/FILM car for more work, especially if it could be damaged. Instead, originals should be in TV auto museums. I wonder how many other cars he labels "original" that might not be? I am not questioning all his cars, but it makes you wonder.

[TK826]

Those upward mounted pushbars are what used to be on the old CHP vehicles.
Most all of the CHP replica cars have the upward mounts.

I also believe that any bolt holes on the roof are remnants from a lightbar.

This car could have been an old squad car.. but I'm thinking that is about as far as it goes.
My guess is that it was a CHP clone, and/or CHP references were (incorrectly) used to create the car.

[FL-BLUESMOBILE]

Hey Steam,

Nope I have never seen or heard of this Bluesmobile. Sorry no info to add. Another mystery Bluesmobile...........

It keeps it fun though!

Good luck on the search on this one. Maybe he might want to drop it from the Chrysler building and blow it up like the Bama brothers! LOL Just kidding guys!

Later,

Huey

Steam McQueen said:

Merged.

Any members gonna be in Newark anytime soon? :D Maybe Huey knows about this car. We need some big pics.

Here's a link to a pdf file where Jerry says he owns the "last surviving" Bluesmobile.
http://www.mgccnj.org/meshinggears/Meshing_GearsRB_2007-12.pdf

http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_cool.gif

It's only available for film/tv. No weddings or stuff. It's sketchy of course but I'd sure like to know some more about this car.

Here's a whack of '74 Monaco's ...
IMCDb.org: dodge monaco in movies and TV series

[76Bluesmobile]

Hi TK - now that you mention it, I do remember seeing some shots of late 60's (1968 I think) Dodge 880's with those bars. Still not correct for this year, but I appreciate the reminder. Hadn't seen those 880's for a while - they were good lookin, powerful cars.

I'm with ya on this one Huey - I'm sure it irks us both pretty bad about what happened to that car. I'm working to join your team though - in time, I hope to have "Bluesmobile Ranch No. 2" - a safe haven for Monacos from everywhere.

[Steam McQueen]

FL-BLUESMOBILE said:

It keeps it fun though!

Yes! Yes it does.

The graphics on this car should be expected to have been altered. Car for hire for movies and tv. Maybe it's undergone a few B&W changes with different cop decals for different cop shows over the last decade or so. Remember ... owned by a businessman, not a fan.

We need some better pics and someone to actually contact the owner. I'm wondering if any members have already shot Jerry an e-mail? I'll try and make contact unless others have done so already.

I really don't believe this car was used in the movie but at the same time I think we should do some more digging. It's a Bluesmobile, much more convincing than the Mississippi car!! :o

[Stien529]

I aggree that its bougus that when someone says "I HAVE THE ORIGINAL "fill in the blank" car from the "FILL IN THE BLANK" movie.

Jake
owner of a 1977 Plymouth Gran Fury fake Blues Mobile..........

[Stien529]

I just got a email from a buddy, the movie THE BOX that my 1973 Cadillac Coupe De Ville was actually used for filiming is coming out in October. My car was in a bunch of sceens. Also was used as Cameran Diaz's sister in law and brother in law pulling up to the hotel sceen.. I haven't seen any pictures or anything so it may have been cut out. But its still exciting to say that the Caddy was in a major motion picture....

Jake

[Blueblood]

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I agree that its bogus that when someone says "I HAVE THE ORIGINAL "fill in the blank" car from the "FILL IN THE BLANK" movie.

Well, as Steam said, "It's business".

For example:
The Blumo in this deleted scene (#1) was wrecked.



The nose of #1 is now on my car (#57). (#57's original nose was damaged in another scene.)

#1 was then painted white and crushed in the monster truck scene. Used, abused and gone to the scrap heap in the sky.

I only know this because the man who made the cars for BB2K (Bill Boyd) sold me mine!
(God love him) :D



Yep, Business props, not sentimental souvenirs...

If one lays claim to owning an original, they'll almost certainly need to have a paper trail.
Dave, Huey, Bill and I were fortunate to have it all to the minutest detail.
This helps distinguish reproduction cars as just so many were made for a particular film.

[Stien529]

Your Blumo's are fantastic historical items. And your hero's for keeping them for history sake. BUT back in 1980 when they made The Blues Brothers, unlike in 1998 those cars were just pieces of trash that Universal didn't want anything to do with. They were hauled off to the crusher and well crushed. 6 year old rusted out Dodges and Plymouths and Chevys that were barely kept running had no dollar value. And for some yahoo to say OH look I have an origanal 1974 Dodge Monaco from the Blues Brothers is just plain Bull SH^T. And then to try and use that lie in order to make some money is even more Bull SH^T......... Your Blumo's are the real thing. I applaud you guys. In my business, I never bull sh^t my customers. I tell it like it is and thats it. I had a lady call me up 5 minutes ago, she wanted a ride to Logan Airport on Monday morning at 5 am. I told her I can't do it., I am booked solid. She then said if I had anyone else to help her, nope were all booked. But I gave her some advice on how to make sure that the person she call can also pick her up...... No bull **** just free advice.... Thats how I am, and thats how I will be....... I don't like sum bags lying POS captilizing on a treasured movie that we all love. This isn't a slam to the guys that go out and make a living singing the songs and giving it back to the people, that is hard honest work.... But to say that a car is something that it isn't.... JUST WRONG>>>> WRANT OFF....

Jake

[Ghostbluesman]

So, Jake...tell us how you really feel....
Rob