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Proton Pack Design


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#1 Father Elwood

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 04:46 PM

Schematics, anyone? Concept schematics, I mean.

I've done a lot of the math. I'm pretty sure a Proton Pack is a physical impossibility. I need to determine whether or not the proton pack is powered by a magnet, nuclear decay, or both. Peter referred to the Proton Pack as a "unlicensed nuclear accelerator," so I'm guess it's powered by the decay of Uranium or Plutonium. If this is a fact in the Proton Pack's design, than they'd need a KILLER cooling system. As is, just a little box on their back, the metal would melt, melting their skin, their backs, their bones, and they'd keel over and die. Either that or they'd just die from the radiation. Or wish they did.

So this is where I ask-- anyone know of concept sketches for the Pack's design? I do know they are impossible to build. I do not plan on trying to build one (that's a death wish), I'd just like to further understand the components of the machine for a fanfic I'm writing. I like to write in great detail. :)

So here's some pics. :eek:

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And finally: EGON BLAST! :P
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So. This is a bit of a brainy discussion. You're feelings about the design of the pack. What you know about it. Etc. :eek:
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#2 ScottBlues

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 08:24 PM

http://www.gbdetroit.com/PackPhysics1.html

A little confusing, but its all right there... in theory that is. And they aren't to hard to build with a little free time and cash.

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#3 Father Elwood

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 11:08 PM

http://www.gbdetroit.com/PackPhysics1.html

A little confusing, but its all right there... in theory that is. And they aren't to hard to build with a little free time and cash.

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It's easy to build if a person doesn't know the components of a cycloron. Omfg. The smallest cyclotron ever built was like the size of one of those old air conditioners. And it weighed like 600 lbs. I'd like to see someone make a cyclotron that smal. Seriously. A synchronous generator? THAT SIZE?! The cyclotron would never get running. D:

Anyway, thanks. This is a GREAT post.
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#4 ScottBlues

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:22 PM

I meant fan made, not a real one... its impossible to have a device like that.

I have made a fan version for myself and while its far from perfect and weights a ton its still nice. I like it at least.

#5 Father Elwood

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 05:31 PM

I meant fan made, not a real one... its impossible to have a device like that.

I have made a fan version for myself and while its far from perfect and weights a ton its still nice. I like it at least.

Oh. I see. I thought most people just bought replicas. Because they are not easy to make to scale with all the components... It's actually really a job for a professional. http://www.bluesbrotherscentral.com/forum2/public/style_emoticons/default/icon_cool.gif
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#6 ScottBlues

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 09:56 PM

Not really, with a little research you can actually buy most of the hard parts... the rest you can make out of wood. I just didnt have the money to spend on the really nice parts... and well I am not so good with wood.

I did end up making it out of wood, but now I see I could have done a lot better... my next one will be perfect.

#7 Father Elwood

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:24 PM

Not really, with a little research you can actually buy most of the hard parts... the rest you can make out of wood. I just didnt have the money to spend on the really nice parts... and well I am not so good with wood.

I did end up making it out of wood, but now I see I could have done a lot better... my next one will be perfect.

Welding. Assembly. Unless it comes with instructions, I doubt your average Joe could put it together. Most people here probably don't even know what a cyclotron is, let alone what it does or how it works. Anyway, I say make it right or don't make it at all. I know that's a stubborn point of view... but I am a Horse after all. Gotta meet my title.

I think the wood could potentially be heavier than sheet metal. Since it's just a replica, I'd probably make it hollow. Heck, I could make it a compartment to keep stuff in. But I don't have a workshop. I have the skills, but not to tools.
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#8 Father Elwood

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 10:15 PM

I'm going to go to some parts stores. I'm going to pick up parts that are partially or fully assembled. These parts will be BROKEN or nonfunctioning. Because functioning parts would be a waste of money (they cost much more than something that is broken). I'm going to construct the components into a machine-- that does not work-- because it's powering is insufficient, and it will have flaws.

This project would take months probably, and it would be relatively crappy in a sense because I'm building a machine that I KNOW won't work. It's for display purposes and conceptual work. If I build a to-scale Proton Pack, I have one to look at from any angle.

But I've been putting these plans off because they're clearly complex.
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 03:49 AM

If you're looking for props and reference info, try this site:
Plans: http://www.gbprops.com/plans/
Reference Pics: http://www.gbprops.com/reference/
Wiki: http://www.gbprops.com/wiki/ (includes ACTUAL component specs!)
Shop: http://www.gbprops.com/shop/ (BUY actual components!)

You'll also need this site:
http://www.hprops.com/labels/

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#10 Father Elwood

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 03:59 AM

If you're looking for props and reference info, try this site:
Plans: http://www.gbprops.com/plans/
Reference Pics: http://www.gbprops.com/reference/
Wiki: http://www.gbprops.com/wiki/ (includes ACTUAL component specs!)
Shop: http://www.gbprops.com/shop/ (BUY actual components!)

You'll also need this site:
http://www.hprops.com/labels/

Hope this helps!

DEAR GOD THANK YOU FOR FIXING THIS THREAD.

Anyway. Back on topic.

These links are... GREAT! You should log on more, man. No, I shouldn't say that. Instead I'll say, it's great to have you on, man!

VERY helpful links.
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